Vegeta succeeds where Goku fails, destroying Android 19 piece by piece. Vegeta was stronger than the base form of Android 13, 14, and 15. ... and 17 is stronger than that. In Dragon Ball GT, Trunks recognizes Android 17 when he attacks him. As the hero of the story, Goku's main goal, besides saving the Earth and its inhabitants, is to find the strongest opponent he can and test his abilities. I... ram it in! Now, 19 beat him because Goku was literally having essentially a heart attack and 19 used methods that absorbed his energy and boosted his own power proportional to the energy absorbed, which is understandably bad during a heart attack from a virus. 17 forced Goku to use blue while Gohan had to beg, 17 took a blast from Jiren that was meant for Vegeta Blue evolution, was the first person to really hurt Jiren, and could slightly keep up with god of destruction Toppo or at the very least ward him off while Gohan's best feat is keeping pace with Dyspo thanks to Frieza's laser prison. SSj3 is nothing next to Blue, like come the hell on. 18 fought him and soon gained the advantage, so Trunks jumped into the battle. Speed: Omnipresent+ (Via scaling to Mystic Gogito.) And, for those curious, the man behind Dragon Ball has detailed a few key points about Android 17 … Until...! Moderators: Kanzenshuu Staff, General Help, Post by LowRyder2005 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:17 pm, Post ", the 349thchapter of the Dragon Ball manga, issued on March 10, 1992. Rules: android 17 and super 17 scale to the dbz anime as the manga and kai are not allowed here. Trunks was about even in strength with the alternate 17 and 18 when he first went to the past and way stronger than mecha freiza in the original timeline. '90s Hair: Both Androids have them. Vegeta followed them and challenged them to a battle. They arent weaker. Android 17 (Japanese: 人造人間17号, Hepburn: Jinzōningen Jū Nana Gō, lit. So during the Android saga of DBZ, Androids 17 and 18 handily wipe the floor with Vegeta and Trunks and Android 19 obviously won in its skirmish with Goku, but that is no evidence that Android 17 and 18 were stronger than Goku. Terms by Lapislettuce » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:22 pm, Post "You're strong. Goku was leagues stronger than Vegeta when he came back to earth, and didn’t stop training meaning his power continued increasing and was severely cut when he was fighting 19. suppressed 17 pushed Goku to ssb and fought on par with ssb Goku, eventhough we don't know how much either held back it was pretty obvious that 17 wasn't taking that fight as seriously as Goku was not to mention Dende stated 17 would be terrifying as an ennemy and Goku agreed after he fought him. He wasn't awake when 17 said he was greatly holding back on Future Gohan and not even using half his power. Even worse, Vegeta’s Super Saiyan is actually stronger than Goku’s at this point in the story. vs. Goku (Super Saiyan) / Goku "You more than live up to your title, Saiyan prince." 2. ~Dante~. If beating down SSJ Goku isn't enough of a feat for Android 17 to be above Buu, there's also him fighting evenly with SSB Goku with minimal struggle while only using a portion of his power. If you look through your manga collection, be sure to check out Dragon Ball and its 367th chapter. Modified by Hujio. by precita » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:16 pm, Post I hope 17 will last much and that he will fight at full power a strong enemy. by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:31 pm, Post With great strength...! He wears a short sleeve black shirt with t… vs. Piccolo by LowRyder2005 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:50 pm, Post It can be safely stated that Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball series, despite Akira Toriyama's attempts at ushering in the era of Goku's son, Gohan, midway through Dragon Ball Z. Originally, he wore an orange bandanna around his neck. Android 17 is far stronger than Superman (N O L I M I T S M A N) who is a full tier above SCP-3812 who exists 'outside of fiction' and is stated to effortlessly erase Suggsverse. Android 17 did not like being controlled by Dr. Gero, so when he awakened 17 and 18 to fight the Z Fighters, 17 took Dr. Gero's remote and crushed it. 1. It would appear that Vegeta is on par, if not above Goku’s own strength, but there is no evidence to support this as even with the heart virus afflicting him, Goku was wiping the fooor with Android 19. Android 17's brief cameo in the Kid Buu Saga. Which means Trunks (no stronger than Gohan) never saw what they were really capable of and is just ignorant. by HybridSaiyan » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:22 pm, Post Also, Gero has to account for Kaioken as well, and team uups from all the Z-Warriors. Android 17 went on to become the breakout star of the Tournament of Power, outlasting fighters like Gohan, Caulifla, Hit, Top, and more. That was absolute Insane. by Lapislettuce » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:04 pm, Post Considering Goku pulled out SSJB to fight him, yeah, I'd place Android about a few notched above SSJ3 Goku. Overview. by Lapislettuce » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:42 pm, Post But when it came to the final boss, he didn’t stand a chance. Android 17 on the other hand is definitely stronger than SSJG Goku but not stronger than SSJB Goku. He is average in height with a slim frame and lean-built. Every angle...! Out of all the plot twists that Dragon Ball Super brought, one of the biggest might be the inclusion of Future Mai as a… Goku survived his fight with Freiza and should have gotten a significant boost from that battle and got even stronger on Yardrat, so much that when SSJ Trunks threw a flurry of sword strikes at him, he could stop each one with one finger. Though not as strong as Goku or Vegeta, Android 17 survived the final battle with Jiren and became the last man standing when it was all over. Android 18 is very likely on the same level as Piccolo or maybe slightly stronger or weaker. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It should be said, the anime’s version of Android 17 seems considerably stronger than his manga counterpart. Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited, Privacy After gathering the Dragon Balls in “One More Wish,” Krillin asked Shenron to … At a younger age, Lazuli was captured by Dr. Gero and remodeled into android 18. So enter Vegeta, who was not only weaker than Goku on Namek, but upon the return of Freiza to earth, was still significantly weaker than Freiza so much so that he feared for his life. ProLight Style by Ian Bradley. I personally thin 17 is stronger than Ultimate Gohan. In my list I have 17 as a 1,000 and Full Power Blue Goku at 5,000 though I might have to revisit it later as the events of the ToP unfold. The first time that we saw Android 17 was in Dragon Ball super episode 86 and 87. Android 17 is a fair-skinned young man with a similar appearance to his fraternal twin sister. Gohan is literally stated in the manga to be the strongest fighter on Earth after Goku and Vegeta. So my hypothesis is this: Goku, knowing that a threat stronger than anything he’d ever faced before, stronger than super saiyan trunks, needed to get way stronger than he was, was probably as strong as androids 17 and 18 but was so strongly afflicted by the heart virus that he was as weak as Vegeta. Or as this list shows, 26th strongest in the Dragon Ball world. 4 Frieza There's no question that Frieza is several times stronger than Gohan. Defeated Mystic Gogito, who was stated to be 100,000-200,000x omnipotent, just by park ranging for one attosecond.) vs. Vegeta (Super Saiyan) "Maybe I'm a little more than you can handle now." Then I thrust it! After awakening 16, 17 and 18 left with him. It's not unreasonable to think the computer was boosting Android 17/18 while they were in stasis. by emperior » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:12 pm, Post So, yes Android can train to get stronger. I meant the actual Goku SS3 Android 18 Is likely above SSJ3 Goku too. Vegeta only beat an Android that was programmed to be stronger than Goku before Goku trained himself at 100 earths gravity, so there’s no way 19 was supposed to be stronger than Goku. As they prepare for the upcoming match, Beerus reveals there's a fighter stronger than Goku who's going to join the team! I think 17 is probably a little above SSJ2 level, but below SSJ3/Super Buu. To be able to pull off a feat like that Goku has to be at least twice as strong as the max force Trunks could put into his sword strikes with just his fingers to prevent them from getting sliced.
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